My study partner, Alissa, was the first one who pushed me to see another doctor.
I had been having pelvic pain since August, but as most medical students are wont to do, I ignored my own health and kept going. I wasn’t bleeding or immobilized, so how bad could it be? I scheduled an appointment with an Ob/Gyn, but couldn’t get in for two months. No big deal, though. I didn’t have time before then anyway.
Except…
Sometimes medical school lectures can be terrifying. A certain well-timed lecture in September sent me running to Student Health.
The doctor there began to dismiss me as being “extremely low risk” for anything of substance, until I could identify my pain very specifically during the exam.
“Right THERE,” I could tell her. “It’s…THERE.”
She was surprised at how acutely I could identify the pain and not being able to do a better exam in the Student Health Center, she ordered me to an Ob/Gyn immediately.
“I have an appointment for next month,” I explained to her. “Well, tell them that you’re in a lot of pain,” she encouraged. “Exaggerate what’s going on to get in sooner. The receptionists aren’t going to know the difference.”
I probably should have done this, but I didn’t have time for an earlier appointment anyway. So, I waited another month and on the much anticipated day of my visit, I was ready to present my detailed history to the provider. I told her what the doctor at Student Health had said and waited for her to work her magic.
But, she didn’t.
She didn’t even examine my area of complaint. Instead, she laughed me off and said that because I’m not sexually active, it was probably nothing. She said that if it was serious, we’d know, because serious things are “painful and persistent.” Except…was I not presenting with pain? With a duration of two months?
That night, when I rejoined Alissa to study, she was horrified.
“You need to go see someone at the hospital!,” she told me. And, I planned to during Christmas break.
Last week, though, the pain reached its highest level since the summer. I had stopped by The Lawyer’s condo on my way home and during the course of conversation, I ended up telling him. He knew that something bad had happened with the last Ob/Gyn appointment, because I had alluded to Alissa’s anger, but up until this point, I hadn’t told him the specifics. When I told him the details of the situation, he was visibly upset.
“I want you to see someone tomorrow,” he said sternly. “This is important.”
I don’t know if I rolled my eyes or just looked away, but he took my head in his hands.
“This is really important,” he said again. “More important than school.”
I skipped my classes the next morning to call around and see who I could coerce into an emergency appointment. I let his words echo in my head as I cursed my truancy. “This is more important than school.”
The Lawyer had to fly to NC for business the night after I talked to him, so he was keeping in touch with me via text throughout the day. When he called after my appointment to hear the verdict, I accidentally started crying.
The doctor had found something, for which she couldn’t identify, and had ordered a CT scan. Although she was sure that it wasn’t endometriosis, her mention of a condition that could compromise my fertility had set me bawling right there on the exam table.
The one thing that I want in life, more than to be a doctor, is to be a mother. I didn’t realize that I’d still be emotional even after leaving her office, but within seconds of answering his call, I was crying again. There I was on my way home: scared, panicked, and tearful. And, there he was two states away: cursing the timing of his business trip and telling me that he was sure that it would all be OK.
This morning, I called to make the CT appointment.
What happened over the course of an hour was:
1. An outpatient radiology facility near the hospital denied me an appointment, because I am allergic to penicillin. They said that “people with allergies tend to have reactions to IV contrast.” Of course, since I’m a medical student, I made the receptionist put the nurse on the phone. People with what kind of allergies? What is in the IV contrast? Are we talking a Type IV Delayed Hypersensitivity or anaphylactic shock? There’s a huge difference. The nurse said she had no idea what was in the contrast or what the range of reactions were, but if patients have had any sort of allergies, they send them to the hospital. What? Seriously?
2. So, I called the hospital. After navigating the spider web of departmental offices, I finally got connected to radiology. I relayed my life history, even though it should be in the system already, only to have them tell me that my insurance has been denied and that they can’t make an appointment without insurance. My insurance ISSUED BY THE HOSPITAL was denied BY THE HOSPITAL WHERE I AM A MEDICAL STUDENT.
3. I called the insurance company. After four attempts to speak with a representative, I spoke to someone for 5 seconds before getting cut off. I called again. And again. And no one has answered or returned my call.
Internet, this is how people end up with acute crises in the ER. One of the reasons I was so reticent to deal with this problem is because my insurance company pays for nothing. Currently, I owe over $1000 out of pocket, for an unpaid claim to my ENT for this and for the first Ob/Gyn appointment, in which the provider didn’t even examine me.
I am a young, almost entirely healthy person with only a few minor issues. If my insurance company is paying for none of my claims, what happens to people who are legitimately ill? I used to think that doctors who ran cash only practices were just money whores, but you know what? I get it. I totally and absolutely understand why they do this. Aside from the fact that I am currently a poor medical student with no other options, I also get why people would opt to see these physicians and pay out of pocket to avoid dealing with insurance companies.
It’s the worst feeling in the world to have a real medical issue that needs further investigation and then, to not be able to schedule an appointment and use the insurance coverage that you’re paying for. When you can’t even communicate with the insurance company denying you the coverage, it’s enough to make you wonder why you’re paying for insurance at all. (I will confess that the only reason that I do pay for health insurance is fear of the worst. What if something really, really bad happened?)
Next time some derelict wanders into the ER, I’m going to ask if they ever had health insurance. Because let me tell you, aside from The Lawyer trying to find a cash only radiology place where he can pay for my CT scan out of pocket (Not a joke. This is what he’s doing right now, as a backup plan), that’s exactly where I’m going to end up.
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UPDATE: I finally got through to the insurance company this afternoon, who said that I don't need pre-authorization for radiology visits. While I was working on insurance, The Lawyer found a doctor's office willing to get me in ASAP. Unfortunately, the doctor's office disagrees with the insurance's pre-authorization claims. They said that they need pre-authorization from the company that processes the insurance claims, not the insurance provider itself, and this will take 48 hours. I don't know enough about this to comment, but the first outpatient clinic said something similar, so I guess that there are multiple levels of authorization.
Total time lost dealing with this today: 2-3 hours (me); who knows how long (The Lawyer).
Thank you for all of your helpful comments. I was so frustrated that I didn't know what else to do, besides spew my rage onto the internet. You guys are awesome.
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UPDATE: I finally got through to the insurance company this afternoon, who said that I don't need pre-authorization for radiology visits. While I was working on insurance, The Lawyer found a doctor's office willing to get me in ASAP. Unfortunately, the doctor's office disagrees with the insurance's pre-authorization claims. They said that they need pre-authorization from the company that processes the insurance claims, not the insurance provider itself, and this will take 48 hours. I don't know enough about this to comment, but the first outpatient clinic said something similar, so I guess that there are multiple levels of authorization.
Total time lost dealing with this today: 2-3 hours (me); who knows how long (The Lawyer).
Thank you for all of your helpful comments. I was so frustrated that I didn't know what else to do, besides spew my rage onto the internet. You guys are awesome.
24 comments:
Oh god, this all sounds terrible and SO stressful. I am so thankful to have good insurance; my sister's ex had a catastrophic medical emergency and was uninsured at the time, and I honestly, truly believe he would have died if she hadn't been around to advocate for him and really, really push every single thing. Hang in there and I hope it all turns out to be nothing (and not to be way way too TMI, but I have a great OB near your med school if you'd like a rec.)
I'm sorry! You do need to have it checked out. What is up with that lame OB/GYN? Insurance can be such a joke. Good luck! Feel better soon :)
oh my god, that's awful. I'm glad the lawyer is helping you with the ct scan, it must be so scary to be in this position!
I really hope everything turns out okay!
:( You're going to be fine--I'm so glad The Lawyer is around to help you out and be supportive and I cannot imagine how frustrating this must be for you right now.
Take care! <3
I've had my fair share of run in's with health insurance companies. After college when I tried to get approved for a plan that would have me paying 500+ dollars a month out of pocket for coverage they denied me and offered major medical coverage which covers nothing. It *might* help if I was dying in an ER. That's about it though. Why did I get denied? Oh, I once took a third tier allergy medicine aka Allegra-D. They decided they didn't want to pay for it in the future. WTH insurance company?!
I hope this all gets sorted for you and I agree, the cash only places never made sense until I had to navigate insurance by myself. Now it makes perfect sense.
I am chronically ill and could not survive without health insurance. And even with fantastic insurance (that I pay out the wazoo for because I'm unemployed and on Cobra) a 3 month supply of the 6 medications I'm on to control my issues so I can eat and get out of bed runs me more than 300 dollars. I was recently offered a job that wouldn't give health insurance benefits until I had been employed there 9 months. I have too many assest (read I own my car) to qualify for state insurance despite the fact that I have no income. There is something totally f***ed up about our health insurance system!
I am crossing my fingers everything gets worked out!
I do hope you get your issue taken care of. I worked for an insurance company and can tell you like any business there are good and bad ones. Usually the issue is they type of plan an employer signs up for and then fails to explain the benefits to the employees (assuming your insurance is issused through an employer).
The other issue is that some of the larger multi-state organizations will deny all claims.
Hospitals and physicians for all the griping they give the insurance industry needs it. Otherwise who could pay for a $5000 ct with a $500 professional fee to read it? Surgery? For get about having that. I remember audting costs and and IV of NS was about $75. That is the cost to the insurance company.
I have heard of such horror stories such as this south of the border (read Dr Grumpy's rants) - if something came up like this for me, the "OK" of an insurance company is never needed, nor is there any "deductible"....I can't imagine!
There are benefits to "socialized medicine" (as much as we Canadians like to complain about the system) ... and I will gladly pay my taxes so no one has to go through what you did - and that includes those homeless or students. All are deserving of basic medical care without question.
C_Girl-Thank you for the encouragement and I'll email you if I need a recommendation. Right now, I have an appt. with a hospital Ob/Gyn during my Christmas break. I've heard good things about those doctors, so hopefully all goes well. The physician that I saw for my emergency visit was also pretty decent, I think.
rnraquel- Thank you! Yes, insurance can be such a pain. I realize that as a future MD, I should probably be trying to do something, but aside from having a huge amount of empathy for other sick people, I have no solutions.
C- Thanks! The Lawyer is a God send. By the time this was posted, he had found another doctor who said that the allergy concerns of the other place were stupid and that was willing to get me in tomorrow afternoon. He wants to pay out of pocket and then try to bill the insurance later, but I'm still going to try and get the insurance to pre-approve. We'll see what happens, but at least I've got him on my side.
dolce vita- You have no idea how frustrated I am. At least I have my blog to whine and complain, but seriously, my hands were shaking by the time I was on my last phone call with the hospital. I was just so angry and upset about this.
Drew- I also got denied health insurance after college! I had a "pre-existing condition" which was something similarly stupid to your allergies. It took me over a year to be able to get health insurance and I used to show up to the ghetto free clinics in the city when I needed medications. The doctors were always appalled and I'd just be like, "Listen, welcome to my world. I can't GET health insurance." When I finally did get it, I think my premium was $400/mo.
Clearblue- "F****d up" is the best description that I can think of to. I get that everything is a business, but if you're not even paying out the benefits that clients are INSURED for? Come on. That's not even ethical business practice.
OldSquid- I understand that the way that our health system works necessitates having insurance. My issue is with not getting covered for benefits that I DO have. I don't have any chronic conditions and I literally go to the doctor twice a year. If I can't get my measly doctor visits paid for, what happens to people who are truly sick? I also just find it upsetting that as a medical student, the hospital-issued health insurance is getting denied at THE HOSPITAL. At the very least, hospitals and med. schools are supposed to take care of their own. I know that it's the insurance company and not the hospital, but it's unbelievable.
CC- My sister in law is married to a Canadian and I almost texted The Lawyer this morning, "Move to Canada with me?" You are so right. I have to check out Dr. Grumpy's rants.
I am so sorry you are going through this. I'm glad you have the Lawyer by your side. (Although I wouldn't hesitate to name and shame the insurance company, here, on Twitter, Facebook, to your state AG, the BBB, wherever. Maybe that would get you some results.)
It is insane, isn't it? We have had thousands of dollars of out-of-pocket medical bills this year, and we pay large sums for health insurance. I think people who are so upset about "Obamacare" and think single-payer healthcare is unamerican must have never had a serious medical condition or a family member with one.
I got into a huge fight with a friend of mine about this. He was trying to argue that we didn't have a health insurance problem in this country because anyone can get care when they need it. I pointed out to him -- yeah, if they're willing to bankrupt themselves for it. It's a problem for pretty much anyone who has less than top of the line insurance, which student health definitely qualifies as. He made me livid.
I have two suggestions:
1. Be a pushy patient. That ObGyn should NEVER have gotten away with blowing you off like that.
2. Talk to someone at your med school, perhaps someone in the administration office. Sometimes they can pull strings for med students. Not sure what you have to say to get this service, but I have friends who got bills waived, and seen very quickly after doing this. It's your health and is worth it.
CM- When I first posted this, I did put the health insurance's name (if you look at the link for the post, it is still in the title...sneaky!). The Lawyer told me to take it out, because I guess that one of us has to be rational and watch the legal backs of all parties involved.
OMDG- I thought about pulling the med. student card and going into the hospital in person. I was calling from home this morning, but when you walk through those hospital doors and start flashing your ID, I know that you get treated differently. I'm not going to lie...I expect my hospital to take care of their own. If I didn't get things figured out in the next day or so, I wasn't above trying to call in a favor to get this taken care of.
As for the first Ob/Gyn visit, I think that I was a combination of complacent and stunned. I didn't know what to do when she blew me off. I would have just waited until Christmas break, as planned, if Alissa and The Lawyer didn't flip out on me. Thank goodness for good friends.
I agree completely about Cartoon Character's comment on the benefits of socialized medicine - As a Canadian, I haven't ever had to worry about whether my healthcare would be covered or about whether I'd be able to provide a service to my patients based on cost. I think it's tragic that the American system is so messed up and that even people with insurance have difficulty accessing the appropriate care. I hope everything sorts itself out quickly and that all is well health wise.
Out of curiousity, why is your doctor doing a CT scan instead of a pelvic ultrasound, which has higher resolution for pelvic organs?
This is TERRIBLE. Keep us (me) posted on how you're feeling....
Well, I hate all the insurance companies I've dealt with (car, home, life) so I'm sure I would hate health insurance companies too (like Solitary Diner and Cartoon Characters, I'm Canadian).
Since their incentive is profit, I'm pretty sure they are motivated to make it as hard as possible for you to get your claims covered.
I can't imagine being sick and having to fight with an insurance company to get proper care. On the flip side, as a physician, I appreciate so much that my diagnostic workup is guided by what's best for the patient rather than what the insurance company will approve.
Just catching up on my google reader now...So frustrated for you! I'm Canadian so I don't have to deal with this, but it makes me ragey that they would deny you an appointment even with insurance. Craziness!! I hope everything is ok with your CT! Internet hugs for you!
Liana- You are exactly right. For profit = trying to scam as much as possible with denied claims. It's so incredibly frustrating.
xoxb- Thank you! CT is next week (much to The Lawyer's chagrin), but hopefully, everything is fine (and will get 80% coverage by insurance!)
Oh, I am so sorry you went through all that! I have hated dealing with health insurance from my childhood with a horrible HMO. (And my dad worked in the insurance field--how does an insurance company have such awful insurance!) I get a lot taken out of my paycheck for my insurance, but it's one of the few major expenses I allow myself so I don't have to put up with that pre-authorization madness. Ugh, insurance. You hope you never have to use it.
And why is a good gyno hard to find too??? I hope you get taken care of very well and feel better soon.
my company has always gone out of its way to give the best benefits they can. they are even insuring the man starting next year, even though we live in sin (haha). for that, i am eternally grateful.
there are SO MANY REASONS why there should be some kind of national baseline health plan. this is one of them. i am so, so sorry you have to deal with this...
Thanks, Mags. You are absolutely right. I know it was a lot of TMI, but it's important to talk about, especially from someone within the healthcare community. I can't tell you how super excited I am (not) to get back to DC and deal with that $1000 in unpaid claims.
Health care in this country is so messed up. I hope everything works out for you.
Stephen Hemsley, the CEO of United Health Care, made $101.96 million in 2010. Health care should be a right not a big business that put profits before people
This is horrible! I'm so sorry girly. I hope you're feeling ok. I have some catching up to do. Let us know what happens with this.
Hey RS -- I hope everything went well with your CT. Keep us posted, ok! Feel better.
Hey RD, I hope everything went well with your appointment. Not sure at this point if you've already shared the results or not. I also understand if you find my delayed comments a tad bit annoying, sorry I'm just trying to live life the way I would have a couple of months ago :)
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